DevOps departments
Viktor Farcic: What do you think about DevOps departments then? I'm seeing quite a lot of them today, especially in enterprises. When I take a closer look at these enterprises, I'm told they're going to form this DevOps department that will be in charge of doing DevOps for the whole company.
Chris Riley: Going back to that large media company I referenced earlier, that's what they do. They implement but they're not responsible for implementing organization-wise. They're more responsible for knowing both what the best practices and the best tools are. What they do implement organization-wise are things such as chatbots, integrations with AWS or whatever the cloud provider is, and things that truly are tools that you would use because what they're integrating with is global.
Everybody uses Slack, so they can create things for Slack. Everybody is using the same cloud, so they can create things for this cloud. That's where I think you...