Viktor Farcic: But if an important component of DevOps is communication between people skilled in development and people skilled in operations, then what the heck is the role of a DevOps engineer? When I look at job descriptions, I think that of the DevOps engineer tops any other profile at the moment.
Wian Vos: Basically, that's just to confuse recruitment.
Wian Vos: Imagine, for instance, you and I were going to start a company. We're going to need a DevOps team because we have a burning desire to put out this awesome application. Yet, in our position, we can hire five people. So, the question we have when we're putting together a DevOps team is both, "Who are we hiring?" and "What are we hiring for?"
Are we going to hire DevOps engineers? No. In that team, we want the best application developers, the best tester, and maybe a great infrastructure person and a frontend/backend...