Bridging the CEO–CTO gap
Viktor Farcic: It's interesting how those first phases of your career related to a history before DevOps, including those tensions and disconnects you talk about that DevOps tries to address of course. Did your next career step, as CTO at IP Services, take you closer to DevOps as we talk about it today?
Kevin Behr: Yes, in the 2000s, I was the CTO at a company called IP Services, which could best be described as an early MSP and outsourcer for infrastructure. It provided mission-critical infrastructure for large fortune and global 500 companies. While I was at IP Services, we had to develop ways to manage across various systems of control, because we would have auditors from every client wanting to come in and inspect our operations.
At this time, I started collaborating and working with Gene Kim, another kindred DevOps mind. We were both CTOs reporting to a CEO, and we both experienced a very specific process of adopting and adapting our thinking to meet...