But can we have something called a DevOps team? I don't believe so. You might spin up a team to solve a DevOps problem, but then I wouldn't even say we specifically have a DevOps problem. I'd say you just have a problem. My original thinking about the movement from 2009 onward, when the name was coined, was that it would be about collaboration and perhaps the tools would sort of come out of that collaboration.
"Can we have something called a DevOps team? I don't believe so."
I expected that a configuration management tool would be adopted by developers, so it was possible for a systems person and a developer to collaborate, but I didn't expect that a bunch of classic systems administration teams would just rebrand to DevOps because there were similarities with some of the tools. I didn't expect to have what I'd traditionally think...