Viktor Farcic: What do you mean by that?
Julian Simpson: We used to keep this business logic and store procedures in the database, but it moved into code running above the database. I think we're a long way from seeing where the container thing is going to end up, but it seems like that's the biggest change. No one's interested in the host OS anymore.
Viktor Farcic: You mean as if it's not the lowest denominator anymore?
Julian Simpson: Yeah, I think in some ways it's incredibly helpful that whether you're looking at containers or platform as a service, people can deliver code using them. I haven't been that interested in the gory details of container runtimes; I'm just happy that if I want to roll out something, I can deploy it on ECS, or whatever container runtime as a service exists.
Viktor Farcic: I think...