What is DevOps?
Viktor Farcic: Hello, James. I wanted to start our discussion with a question: what does DevOps mean to you? It's a question that I find fascinating because everyone I've interviewed for this book has given me a different answer.
James Turnbull: I'm not sure that there is a single description for DevOps anymore. I started talking about DevOps in 2009, and although I wasn't at the first DevOps event in Ghent, Belgium, that year, I was at the next one.
I think when it first started out, DevOps was really about trying to build bridges between operations and their functions and developers and their functions, which largely focused around the moment of handover where the code goes from being in development to being deployed and in production. Then from there, we analyzed a lot of the problems with that particular challenge and identified that some of the issues were cultural, some were technological, like automation and tooling, while other issues were process...